When it came the time to put the pages together, and as i already stressed out, i realized that there is no real templating mechanism and really only one part of the screen could be updated per request (unless you mix concerns). The ugly part comes when you need to start hacking around. Putting stuff in the so called pageController that is shared for the rendering of any page... The motivation was just to fill some dynamic data that you need on your front page.
Some CakePHP users where actually smarter than me and used CakePHP along with things like Joomla, actually there is even a bridge project called Jake, that i would look at before i do anything again.
The other ugliness was mostly related to the so called PHP objects, arrays of anything... You're never sure what is really expected since anything is accepted, so it's mostly a fun game of trying/testing. The time you save in some parts is easily lost in other parts :(
Wednesday, September 26, 2007
CakePHP: Day 3, the ugly
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I've been enjoying following this!
I'm a symfony guy, through and through. I'm doing a symfony presentation soon, and having not spent much time on CakePHP, I wasn't sure how to present it.. but I think hearing your frustrations pretty much echoes my assumptions, which means I still feel I've made the right choice by choosing symfony (er, when I can).
Will there be a day four?!
No day four :) Maybe i will meet things i want to share in the future, but i was really just trying the framework on a typical case.
Interesting reading this... I looked on CakePHP a little more than a year ago - I found that it simply failed on several points when I compared it to RoR and went for home made frameworks :S it is much better for hacking...
Some good observations there, Thomas. You are right of course. What's the point of a framework if you have to hack it? Personally, I prefer not to use a framework and implement MVC and ORM classes myself using OOP best practices according to the specific needs of the application. If PHP only had something like Struts or JSF...
By the way, your profile says your 29 and your Chinese zodiac sign is snake. You can't be both snake and 29 y.o. in 2007. ;)
Cheers, Thomas
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